Ok, my brain is goo and this thing is sweeping the Internet, so I cannot resist. Since the theme is marriage, I would like to discuss something on that topic. On "The Bachelor" (I KNOW), Jason dumped Jillian (a cool and smart woman by all appearances, despite her participation in this gaudy trainwreck of a show) in part because he declared her "the ultimate friend." She argued that you should want to marry your best friend, and that when you're 90, you want to look at your spouse and know you've spent your life with your best friend. Jason, meanwhile, told her there "has to be more." And then he went and stuck his tongue down the throat of a younger, perkier, former Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. While of course no one will argue that you should marry someone with whom you have a friendship but no romantic attraction, I have the distinct sense that Jason is banking almost entirely on passion/spark and tossing best friendship out the window. That, to me, is really misguided. Because, dude, the spark does not last forever. The spark is not going to get you to your 50th anniversary. Her boobs are not going to look like that forever. And if you aren't each others' best friends, what are you going to have as your foundation when you're older and saggier and less energetic? Of COURSE you should be attracted to your spouse, and of COURSE you should keep romance alive throughout your life together. BUT if you're picking a mate solely on a passion/spark basis, I think you're setting yourself up to fail. Am I alone here? Talk amongst yourselves! What are your middle names? How long have you been together? How long did you know each other before you started dating? Who asked whom out? How old are each of you? Whose siblings do you see the most? Which situation is the hardest on you as a couple? Did you go to the same school? Are you from the same home town? Who is smarter? Who is the most sensitive? Where do you eat out most as a couple? Where is the furthest you two have traveled together as a couple? Who has the craziest exes? Who has the worst temper? Who does the cooking? Who is the neat-freak? Who is more stubborn? Who hogs the bed? Who wakes up earlier? Where was your first date? Who is more jealous? How long did it take to get serious? Who eats more? Who does the laundry? Who's better with the computer? Who drives when you are together?
Lee and Eric.
We started, erm, unofficially dating in late 2001, and officially dating a few months later. Things were somewhat complicated, as I was -- ahem -- living with someone else at the time.
We had met during my first summer in law school, but didn't really get to know each other then. When I was a new associate, he came back to our workplace after working somewhere else, and his office was near mine. We started hanging around a lot at work (we were both putting in some long hours) and then it sort of evolved from there.
It didn't exactly happen that way. We had become good friends, and then after 9/11, he started accompanying me home on the subway (I was scared to go alone -- and by the way, it was TWO trains out of his way, which is kind of a big deal) and then maybe in November or thereabouts, we went to Pizzeria Uno after working late on a Sunday (I believe that was my suggestion) and maybe a month or so after that we went out for post-work drinks at Temple Bar and in the cab afterward, we smooched. Drama ensued, but once the drama was over, all was well.
He is 40, I'm 33.
Mine, even though he now lives thousands of miles away.
I don't know. I think we handle everything pretty well. The adoption has been almost unbearable, but it hasn't challenged our relationship, just us as individuals, you know? We don't take it out on each other. And as much as I hate to trot out this cliche, it has made us stronger.
Nope. He was in college when I was in 7th grade, which I love to point out whenever possible.
Not even close. He's from a suburb on Long Island and I'm from a quaint little Southern town.
That's a subject of endless debate! I think we're probably about the same IQ-wise, but if pressed I would say that I am quicker/more superficially smart (like crossword puzzle/game show kind of smart, which is pretty useless) but he works a million times harder than I do, and he is wayyyyyyyy smarter in terms of complex reasoning and deep understanding of stuff (especially legal stuff). I tend to dismiss things or get frustrated if I can't understand something right away, whereas he'll put in the time and effort to wrap his head around it.
Well, we're both sensitive, I think, but not like sappy sentimental fools or anything. I think we're equally attuned to each others' moods and feelings.
Gramercy Tavern, probably; it's our go-to special occasion place. Ordering in, we mostly call up the Saigon Grill.
Vietnam.
Neither of us. Our exes are pretty much non-entities in our life.
That would be him. Although he gets angry REALLY FAST and REALLY INTENSELY but then gets over it in about ten seconds, whereas I am slow to burn but I stay mad longer. I also tend to bottle up anger and then do the ice queen routine where I expect him to figure out what's wrong by ESP or something. Which is super-mature. I am working on it.
That is my designated household role. Sometimes I get martyrous about it, but I really don't mind too much. The Rachael Ray Big Orange Book is my friend, let me tell you.
Both of us. Joe is big on using the hand-vac. He also cleans up after dinner every night. I think I would find it VERY trying to be married to someone slovenly.
Oh, man. We are BOTH stubborn as mules. Again, in slightly different ways, but we can be so hard-headed. One of my most charming qualities is that, when someone tells me to do something, I immediately want to do the exact opposite. I thrive on spite. So that's fun for everyone.
Neither of us; we pretty much stay huddled on our sides of our barge-sized king bed. I do miss cuddly-sleeping, but I have the dog curled up next to me so that's something.
Joe, sometimes by HOURS. And I get up at 6:30 during the week, 8 on the weekends; it's not like I'm in bed til noon.
As mentioned above, our first out of the office interaction, though it wasn't really a date, was at Pizzeria Uno. So romantic. Our first datey-date, I would say, was to see a show and then for dinner at Gramercy (hence it being Our Place).
Neither of us. What would be the POINT of being jealous? We're married; we took vows, and we intend to live by them.
Not that long, especially considering the circumstances. We got engaged in August 2002. He wanted to lock it up, man!
He does, but, uh, not by all that much. Eeek! He also eats about 50 times faster than I do, which is scary because I eat pretty quickly. AND he eats healthier than I do. I feel like one day that's going to catch up to me...
Our cleaners.
I AM! He does not have the patience. Although I am not saint-like in my patience either (see: hysterically crying while on hold with RoadRunner tech support).
I do. I LOVE to drive.
